[crw-talk] Fwd: Saturday 6-17-23 Demo Safety Concerns

Ken Grunke kengrunke at gmail.com
Sat Jun 24 15:31:57 CDT 2023 

Bob, and all, my replies are interspersed within the quotes:

On 6/23/23 21:01, raaschb at charter.net wrote:
>
> The following is geeky: read at you own risk.
>
>  1. The currently used club’s CRW talk software is Mailman software is
>     2.1.38, the most current is 3.3.8, written in the  Python
>     language, which should be stable. I do not know the effect of the
>     current Mailman version on handling the current email traffic. I
>     believe the computer running the OS maybe a type of Unix,  Linux
>     or similar and able to be used on a variety of computers....... Am
>     hoping Ken will review and possibly update, as  needed. There are
>     mail server products available that run on Windows computers, but
>      these are not free!
>
the website is hosted on a shared hosting server from hostgator.com. It 
is a Linux system, running Redhat Linux. I don't have root access to the 
server at the level where Mailman can be updated. Hostgator offers the 
Mailman listserv as a user service, and they take care of the updates. 
All I can do is log into the control panel and change the settings to 
suit our needs.
>
>  1. Many years ago, ........ I do not know if Yahoo groups is still
>     available or costs. It was free in the mid 2000’s
>  2. Someone suggested in the last couple of days, for members to use
>     an email package other than AOL when interacting with CRW talk. 
>     ......... I don’t believe the CRW police should be involved in
>     recommending email software to use. .....
>
>  1. Please, fix or update the CRW software as needed, Do not suggest
>     using a new email address for this sole purpose.
>
I certainly didn't mean to police the choice of email providers, just 
wanted to suggest a solution to the problem. The fix/update request is 
answered in my first paragraph.


>  1. I do suspect, however, paying for an email list management service
>     would be a consideration going forward, set up so more than one
>     club member person could help manage.  Some of these have
>     reasonable costs for such a small club and minimal traffic such as
>     CRW has. Funded by dues, recall the kitty currently has bout
>     $3,000 I believe.
>
Hostgator doesn't offer alternatives as a service, although there are 
user-installable packages available for email listservs. I have looked 
at them in the past, and didn't see any reason to move away from 
Mailman. Why fix something that isn't broken? I'm not sure where the 
connection lies between Mailman and outgoing emails getting trapped in 
personal spam folders.

Bob, I'd be glad to have your help managing crw-talk or you can at least 
have a look at the Mailman control panel.  I'll email you the login info 
for that. Maybe you can find that connection.

> 1.
>
> Thank you, -Raasch
>
> *From:* crw-talk <crw-talk-bounces at crwoodturner.com> *On Behalf Of 
> *John & Donna Griffiths
> *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2023 11:17 AM
> *To:* Membership mailing list for the AAW Chapter Coulee Region 
> Woodturners. <crw-talk at crwoodturner.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [crw-talk] Fwd: Saturday 6-17-23 Demo Safety Concerns
>
> Bob, it must have been eaten by a gremlin.  One that munches down on 
> electrons, kind of like a Pac Man.  Just resend it,  As I enter my 
> ninth decade, if there is one thing I have figured out, it is 
> electronic devices are subject to glitches.  John
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From "Ken Grunke" <kengrunke at gmail.com <mailto:kengrunke at gmail.com>>
>
> To "CRW talk" <crw-talk at crwoodturner.com 
> <mailto:crw-talk at crwoodturner.com>>
>
> Date 6/23/2023 10:01:35 AM
>
> Subject [crw-talk] Fwd: Saturday 6-17-23 Demo Safety Concerns
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Pam Day* <aamethesta at aol.com <mailto:aamethesta at aol.com>>
> Date: Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 7:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [crw-talk] Saturday 6-17-23 Demo Safety Concerns
> To: Membership mailing list for the AAW Chapter Coulee Region 
> Woodturners. <crw-talk at crwoodturner.com 
> <mailto:crw-talk at crwoodturner.com>>
>
>
>
> I think it is always wise for club members to help maintain safe 
> meetings.  The excitement of live demonstrations, along with Co-Vid 
> complacency and rusty remembering, shouldn't numb us to safety 
> recommendations.
>
> Perhaps a demonstration checklist of av, equipment and seating set up 
> would help with memory cobwebs.
>
> I am impressed that this club has the trust and respect of all members 
> so concerns are able to be presented without retribution.
>
> Kudos to the club as a whole.   Pam
>
> Sent from AOL on Android 
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aol.mobile.aolapp>
>
>     On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 9:33 PM, raaschb at charter.net
>     <mailto:raaschb at charter.net>
>
>     <raaschb at charter.net <mailto:raaschb at charter.net>> wrote:
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