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<p>Bob, and all, my replies are interspersed within the quotes:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/23/23 21:01, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:raaschb@charter.net">raaschb@charter.net</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The
following is geeky: read at you own risk. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The currently
used club’s CRW talk software is Mailman software is
2.1.38, the most current is 3.3.8, written in the Python
language, which should be stable. I do not know the effect
of the current Mailman version on handling the current
email traffic. I believe the computer running the OS maybe
a type of Unix, Linux or similar and able to be used on a
variety of computers....... Am hoping Ken will review and
possibly update, as needed. There are mail server
products available that run on Windows computers, but
these are not free!</span></li>
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the website is hosted on a shared hosting server from hostgator.com.
It is a Linux system, running Redhat Linux. I don't have root access
to the server at the level where Mailman can be updated. Hostgator
offers the Mailman listserv as a user service, and they take care of
the updates. All I can do is log into the control panel and change
the settings to suit our needs. <br>
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level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Many years ago,
........ I do not know if Yahoo groups is still available
or costs. It was free in the mid 2000’s<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Someone
suggested in the last couple of days, for members to use
an email package other than AOL when interacting with CRW
talk. ......... I don’t believe the CRW police should be
involved in recommending email software to use. .....<br>
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level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Please, fix or
update the CRW software as needed, Do not suggest using a
new email address for this sole purpose. </span></li>
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<p>I certainly didn't mean to police the choice of email providers,
just wanted to suggest a solution to the problem. The fix/update
request is answered in my first paragraph.</p>
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level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I do suspect,
however, paying for an email list management service would
be a consideration going forward, set up so more than one
club member person could help manage. Some of these have
reasonable costs for such a small club and minimal traffic
such as CRW has. Funded by dues, recall the kitty
currently has bout $3,000 I believe.</span></li>
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<p>Hostgator doesn't offer alternatives as a service, although there
are user-installable packages available for email listservs. I
have looked at them in the past, and didn't see any reason to move
away from Mailman. Why fix something that isn't broken? I'm not
sure where the connection lies between Mailman and outgoing emails
getting trapped in personal spam folders. <br>
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<p>Bob, I'd be glad to have your help managing crw-talk or you can
at least have a look at the Mailman control panel. I'll email you
the login info for that. Maybe you can find that connection.<br>
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style="font-size:12.0pt">Thank you, -Raasch<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> crw-talk
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crw-talk-bounces@crwoodturner.com"><crw-talk-bounces@crwoodturner.com></a> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>John & Donna Griffiths<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 23, 2023 11:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Membership mailing list for the AAW Chapter
Coulee Region Woodturners.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crw-talk@crwoodturner.com"><crw-talk@crwoodturner.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [crw-talk] Fwd: Saturday 6-17-23 Demo
Safety Concerns<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">Bob, it must have been eaten by a
gremlin. One that munches down on electrons, kind of like
a Pac Man. Just resend it, As I enter my ninth decade,
if there is one thing I have figured out, it is electronic
devices are subject to glitches. John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">From "Ken Grunke" <</span><a
href="mailto:kengrunke@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">kengrunke@gmail.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">To "CRW talk" <</span><a
href="mailto:crw-talk@crwoodturner.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">crw-talk@crwoodturner.com</span></a><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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UI",sans-serif">Date 6/23/2023 10:01:35 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">Subject [crw-talk] Fwd: Saturday
6-17-23 Demo Safety Concerns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
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From: <b>Pam Day</b> <</span><a
href="mailto:aamethesta@aol.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">aamethesta@aol.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">><br>
Date: Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 7:21 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [crw-talk] Saturday 6-17-23 Demo Safety
Concerns<br>
To: Membership mailing list for the AAW Chapter Coulee
Region Woodturners. <</span><a
href="mailto:crw-talk@crwoodturner.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">crw-talk@crwoodturner.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
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I think it is always wise for club members to help maintain
safe meetings. The excitement of live demonstrations, along
with Co-Vid complacency and rusty remembering, shouldn't
numb us to safety recommendations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">Perhaps a demonstration checklist of
av, equipment and seating set up would help with memory
cobwebs. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">I am impressed that this club has the
trust and respect of all members so concerns are able to
be presented without retribution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif">Kudos to the club as a whole. Pam <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 9:33 PM, </span><a
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