[crw-talk] Safety brought up

griff griff at mwt.net
Thu Feb 20 10:51:28 CST 2025


Regarding Bob's comment on the payout. the adjuster wanted us to go 
after the home owner's insurance of the person who caused the accident. 
I don't recall who in the club, maybe Jim Frank, contacted the agent who 
handles our policy and he made sure the club's insurance paid up.  I 
think it happened when Phil as president so that was a while ago.

Steve Sinner does wonderful work.  Hollowforms mainly, he finished with 
Minwax Helmsmen finish which is a poly that is somewhat light fast so 
the color of the wood is better preserved, although if I recall it 
darkens a bit more than some finishes.  He has made his finishing 
process into a science that he follows in great detail.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it, j

On 2/19/25 11:07 PM, raaschb at charter.net wrote:
> I remember the accident/ incident. Demo guy was Lyndall Anthony.  
> Don't recall the reluctant payout.
> Lyndall does nice work, maybe a protege of Steve Sinner.
>
> Would suggest Steve be invited 2026 to do "live" club demo, maybe 9-2 
> to allow for more depth. Will prob need  overnight lodging fee & mileage?
> Steve specializes as I recall in hollow vessel form & coloring & 
> embellishing -gorgeous pieces. His attention to detail is tops!
> Check out his turned works in St Paul & company booth- Advanced Lathe 
> Tools.
> He's from quad cities area, down the river.
> Check out his bio
> https://advancedlathetools.com/
>
>
>
> Bob R at charter
>
> On Feb 18, 2025 9:54 AM, griff <griff at mwt.net> wrote:
>
>     As a board member I would certainly support continuing having
>     adequate insurance .  It's really a no brainer.
>
>     Kernel of information, we had a demonstrator a decade ago or so
>     who brought some very valuable tall hollow forms turned from box
>     elder with thin walls. (If I recall correctly, valued at
>     $1500.00.)  One accidentally got knocked over and cracked, the
>     claim was turned into our insurance and it was paid. (After the
>     adjuster tried to weasel out of paying.)
>
>     John
>
>     On 2/17/25 7:17 PM, raaschb at charter.net
>     <mailto:raaschb at charter.net> wrote:
>
>         In response to Bob P, Aaron & John G.
>
>         Yup, Jim was the creator of the insurance program, many years
>         ago, 2015?
>
>         I wrote the set of documents listed on the website, and
>         designed the web site displayed format in collaboration with
>         Jim. A review of said documents by Tim K was also done.  At
>         that time the insurance process for members was accurate, and
>         the parameters of coverage was accurate.  I am *_not_*
>         currently a board member, therefore I don't have any current
>         knowledge if the club continues to pay the  premiums, though I
>         suspect they are, or if the listed processes are current.
>
>         The prime reason for signing the attendance form, is, or at
>         least in the past was to advantage paid up club members of the
>         insurance, should the need arise.
>
>         I'm suggesting for the good of the order, a board member
>         should follow up:
>         - communicate to membership as to currency of premiums paid up?
>         - communicate to membership if documents listed on website are
>         current, including "claim processes".
>
>         I do believe Tim K is still in the insurance business and may
>         continue to be the servicing agent?
>         Also, as I recall, Tim was invited to a club meeting many
>         years ago to present the insurance program paramenters & claim
>         processes. Might recommend another invitation be extended.
>
>         This insurance web link from the crw web site may help to
>         understand.
>
>         http://www.crwoodturner.com/insurance/CRW_insurance_info_sheet_2017.html
>         <http://www.crwoodturner.com/insurance/CRW_insurance_info_sheet_2017.html>
>
>         The following docs may be of particular help.
>
>             The _document_ /of/ _understanding_ puts meat on the bones.
>
>             See _brief_ _directions_ for concise operational guidelines.
>
>         -raasch
>
>         Bob R at charter
>
>         On Feb 16, 2025 10:17 AM, griff <griff at mwt.net>
>         <mailto:griff at mwt.net> wrote:
>
>             I know lawyers will go after anybody whom there is even a
>             remote chance
>             of getting money out of in the event of some kind of an
>             incident.  And
>             then the remotely related person will have to pay a lawyer
>             to defend
>             them.  So that's why the late, great Jim Frank in his
>             infinite wisdom
>             went to so much effort to get the club covered with
>             insurance way back
>             when.  And actually the opposite is true, if you have a
>             case but you
>             don't allow your lawyer to name everybody and their
>             brother, the liable
>             parties will use that to get themselves out of a lawsuit. 
>             And we
>             thought only lions, wolves and boa constrictors were harsh
>             predators.  j
>
>             On 2/15/25 5:55 PM, Robert Patros wrote:
>             > My understanding is that if an accident does happen and
>             there could be a lawsuit, a lawyer will name anyone and
>             anyplace connected to the incident. Am I wrong?
>             >
>             > Sent from my iPhone
>             >
>             >> On Feb 15, 2025, at 5:50 PM, Aaron Gesicki
>             <aaronagesicki at gmail.com> <mailto:aaronagesicki at gmail.com>
>             wrote:
>             >>
>             >> Don't know. This question hasn't been asked.
>             >> We have insurance, and I'm sure Luther does
>             >> too. But the devil is always in the details.
>             >>
>             >>
>             >>
>             >> Aaron Gesicki
>             >>
>             >> -----Original Message-----
>             >> From: crw-talk
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>             >> Behalf Of Robert Patros
>             >> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 8:29 AM
>             >> To: Crw-Talk <crw-talk at crwoodturner.com>
>             <mailto:crw-talk at crwoodturner.com>
>             >> Subject: [crw-talk] Safety brought up
>             >>
>             >> There apparently is going to be a discussion
>             >> on safety issues today. In thinking about
>             >> this, what liability does Luther have if
>             >> there is an injury. Does CRW insurance cover
>             >> them as well?
>             >> Or, am I off track?
>             >>
>             >> Sent from my iPhone
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