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    <p>Regarding Bob's comment on the payout. the adjuster wanted us to
      go after the home owner's insurance of the person who caused the
      accident. I don't recall who in the club, maybe Jim Frank,
      contacted the agent who handles our policy and he made sure the
      club's insurance paid up.  I think it happened when Phil as
      president so that was a while ago.</p>
    <p>Steve Sinner does wonderful work.  Hollowforms mainly, he
      finished with Minwax Helmsmen finish which is a poly that is
      somewhat light fast so the color of the wood is better preserved,
      although if I recall it darkens a bit more than some finishes.  He
      has made his finishing process into a science that he follows in
      great detail.</p>
    <p>That's my story and I'm sticking to it, j<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/19/25 11:07 PM,
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          <div>I remember the accident/ incident. Demo guy was Lyndall
            Anthony.  Don't recall the reluctant payout. </div>
          <div dir="auto">Lyndall does nice work, maybe a protege of
            Steve Sinner. </div>
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          <div dir="auto">Would suggest Steve be invited 2026 to do
            "live" club demo, maybe 9-2 to allow for more depth. Will
            prob need  overnight lodging fee & mileage?</div>
          <div dir="auto">Steve specializes as I recall in hollow vessel
            form & coloring & embellishing -gorgeous pieces. 
            His attention to detail is tops!</div>
          <div dir="auto">Check out his turned works in St Paul &
            company booth- Advanced Lathe Tools. </div>
          <div dir="auto">He's from quad cities area, down the river. </div>
          <div dir="auto">Check out his bio</div>
          <div dir="auto"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://advancedlathetools.com/">https://advancedlathetools.com/</a></div>
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          <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Bob R@charter</div>
          <div><br>
            <div class="elided-text">On Feb 18, 2025 9:54 AM, griff
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:griff@mwt.net"><griff@mwt.net></a> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                  <p>As a board member I would certainly support
                    continuing having adequate insurance .  It's really
                    a no brainer.</p>
                  <p>Kernel of information, we had a demonstrator a
                    decade ago or so who brought some very valuable tall
                    hollow forms turned from box elder with thin walls. 
                    (If I recall correctly, valued at $1500.00.)  One
                    accidentally got knocked over and cracked, the claim
                    was turned into our insurance and it was paid. 
                    (After the adjuster tried to weasel out of paying.)</p>
                  <p>John<br>
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                  <div>On 2/17/25 7:17 PM, <a
                      href="mailto:raaschb@charter.net"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">raaschb@charter.net</a>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="auto">In response to Bob P, Aaron &
                        John G.</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto">Yup, Jim was the creator of the
                        insurance program, many years ago, 2015?</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto">I wrote the set of documents
                        listed on the website, and designed the web site
                        displayed format in collaboration with Jim. A
                        review of said documents by Tim K was also
                        done.  At that time the insurance process for
                        members was accurate, and the parameters of
                        coverage was accurate.  I am <b><u>not</u></b>
                        currently a board member, therefore I don't have
                        any current knowledge if the club continues to
                        pay the  premiums, though I suspect they are, 
                        or if the listed processes are current.</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
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                      <div dir="auto">The prime reason for signing the
                        attendance form, is, or at least in the past was
                        to advantage paid up club members of the
                        insurance, should the need arise. </div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
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                      <div dir="auto">I'm suggesting for the good of the
                        order, a board member should follow up: </div>
                      <div dir="auto">- communicate to membership as to
                        currency of premiums paid up?</div>
                      <div dir="auto">- communicate to membership if
                        documents listed on website are current,
                        including "claim processes".</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto">I do believe Tim K is still in the
                        insurance business and may continue to be the
                        servicing agent?</div>
                      <div dir="auto">Also, as I recall, Tim was invited
                        to a club meeting many years ago to present the
                        insurance program paramenters & claim
                        processes. Might recommend another invitation be
                        extended. </div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
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                      <div dir="auto">This insurance web link from the
                        crw web site may help to understand. </div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
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                      <div dir="auto"><a
href="http://www.crwoodturner.com/insurance/CRW_insurance_info_sheet_2017.html"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.crwoodturner.com/insurance/CRW_insurance_info_sheet_2017.html</a></div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
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                      <div dir="auto">The following docs may be of
                        particular help.</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
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                      <div dir="auto">    The <u>document</u> <i>of</i>
                        <u>understanding</u> puts meat on the bones. </div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
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                      <div dir="auto">    See <u>brief</u> <u>directions</u> for
                        concise operational guidelines. </div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
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                      <div dir="auto">-raasch</div>
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                      <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Bob
                        R@charter</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                        <div class="elided-text">On Feb 16, 2025 10:17
                          AM, griff <a href="mailto:griff@mwt.net"
                            moz-do-not-send="true"><griff@mwt.net></a>
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                            <p dir="ltr">I know lawyers will go after
                              anybody whom there is even a remote chance
                              <br>
                              of getting money out of in the event of
                              some kind of an incident.  And <br>
                              then the remotely related person will have
                              to pay a lawyer to defend <br>
                              them.  So that's why the late, great Jim
                              Frank in his infinite wisdom <br>
                              went to so much effort to get the club
                              covered with insurance way back <br>
                              when.  And actually the opposite is true,
                              if you have a case but you <br>
                              don't allow your lawyer to name everybody
                              and their brother, the liable <br>
                              parties will use that to get themselves
                              out of a lawsuit.  And we <br>
                              thought only lions, wolves and boa
                              constrictors were harsh predators.  j</p>
                            <p dir="ltr">On 2/15/25 5:55 PM, Robert
                              Patros wrote:<br>
                              > My understanding is that if an
                              accident does happen and there could be a
                              lawsuit, a lawyer will name anyone and
                              anyplace connected to the incident. Am I
                              wrong?<br>
                              ><br>
                              > Sent from my iPhone<br>
                              ><br>
                              >> On Feb 15, 2025, at 5:50 PM,
                              Aaron Gesicki <a
                                href="mailto:aaronagesicki@gmail.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true"><aaronagesicki@gmail.com></a>
                              wrote:<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Don't know. This question hasn't
                              been asked.<br>
                              >> We have insurance, and I'm sure
                              Luther does<br>
                              >> too. But the devil is always in
                              the details.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >><br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Aaron Gesicki<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> -----Original Message-----<br>
                              >> From: crw-talk<br>
                              >> <a
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                              On<br>
                              >> Behalf Of Robert Patros<br>
                              >> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025
                              8:29 AM<br>
                              >> To: Crw-Talk <a
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                              >> Subject: [crw-talk] Safety
                              brought up<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> There apparently is going to be a
                              discussion<br>
                              >> on safety issues today. In
                              thinking about<br>
                              >> this, what liability does Luther
                              have if<br>
                              >> there is an injury. Does CRW
                              insurance cover<br>
                              >> them as well?<br>
                              >> Or, am I off track?<br>
                              >><br>
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