[crw-talk] Safety brought up

griff griff at mwt.net
Tue Feb 18 09:54:38 CST 2025


As a board member I would certainly support continuing having adequate 
insurance .  It's really a no brainer.

Kernel of information, we had a demonstrator a decade ago or so who 
brought some very valuable tall hollow forms turned from box elder with 
thin walls.  (If I recall correctly, valued at $1500.00.)  One 
accidentally got knocked over and cracked, the claim was turned into our 
insurance and it was paid.  (After the adjuster tried to weasel out of 
paying.)

John

On 2/17/25 7:17 PM, raaschb at charter.net wrote:
> In response to Bob P, Aaron & John G.
>
> Yup, Jim was the creator of the insurance program, many years ago, 2015?
>
> I wrote the set of documents listed on the website, and designed the 
> web site displayed format in collaboration with Jim. A review of said 
> documents by Tim K was also done.  At that time the insurance process 
> for members was accurate, and the parameters of coverage was 
> accurate.  I am *_not_* currently a board member, therefore I don't 
> have any current knowledge if the club continues to pay the  premiums, 
> though I suspect they are,  or if the listed processes are current.
>
> The prime reason for signing the attendance form, is, or at least in 
> the past was to advantage paid up club members of the insurance, 
> should the need arise.
>
> I'm suggesting for the good of the order, a board member should follow 
> up:
> - communicate to membership as to currency of premiums paid up?
> - communicate to membership if documents listed on website are 
> current, including "claim processes".
>
> I do believe Tim K is still in the insurance business and may continue 
> to be the servicing agent?
> Also, as I recall, Tim was invited to a club meeting many years ago to 
> present the insurance program paramenters & claim processes. Might 
> recommend another invitation be extended.
>
> This insurance web link from the crw web site may help to understand.
>
> http://www.crwoodturner.com/insurance/CRW_insurance_info_sheet_2017.html
>
> The following docs may be of particular help.
>
>     The _document_ /of/ _understanding_ puts meat on the bones.
>
>     See _brief_ _directions_ for concise operational guidelines.
>
> -raasch
>
> Bob R at charter
>
> On Feb 16, 2025 10:17 AM, griff <griff at mwt.net> wrote:
>
>     I know lawyers will go after anybody whom there is even a remote
>     chance
>     of getting money out of in the event of some kind of an incident. 
>     And
>     then the remotely related person will have to pay a lawyer to defend
>     them.  So that's why the late, great Jim Frank in his infinite wisdom
>     went to so much effort to get the club covered with insurance way
>     back
>     when.  And actually the opposite is true, if you have a case but you
>     don't allow your lawyer to name everybody and their brother, the
>     liable
>     parties will use that to get themselves out of a lawsuit.  And we
>     thought only lions, wolves and boa constrictors were harsh
>     predators.  j
>
>     On 2/15/25 5:55 PM, Robert Patros wrote:
>     > My understanding is that if an accident does happen and there
>     could be a lawsuit, a lawyer will name anyone and anyplace
>     connected to the incident. Am I wrong?
>     >
>     > Sent from my iPhone
>     >
>     >> On Feb 15, 2025, at 5:50 PM, Aaron Gesicki
>     <aaronagesicki at gmail.com> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Don't know. This question hasn't been asked.
>     >> We have insurance, and I'm sure Luther does
>     >> too. But the devil is always in the details.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Aaron Gesicki
>     >>
>     >> -----Original Message-----
>     >> From: crw-talk
>     >> <crw-talk-bounces at crwoodturner.com> On
>     >> Behalf Of Robert Patros
>     >> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 8:29 AM
>     >> To: Crw-Talk <crw-talk at crwoodturner.com>
>     >> Subject: [crw-talk] Safety brought up
>     >>
>     >> There apparently is going to be a discussion
>     >> on safety issues today. In thinking about
>     >> this, what liability does Luther have if
>     >> there is an injury. Does CRW insurance cover
>     >> them as well?
>     >> Or, am I off track?
>     >>
>     >> Sent from my iPhone
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